Gun Laws for Rifles.

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Gun Laws for Rifles.

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I'm In Florida,
&I wan't to carry my .22 semi-auto in my Trunk.
What are the laws against this, can it be loaded?
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As far as I know thats is legal.Used to carry mine in rear window gun rack but not any more.Times have changed if you display a gun be ready to answer questions to the man.... :protest:

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http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/790.25

Read the entire statute, but I believe if you scroll to the last paragraph your specific question is answered.
Note: This statute is for 2012 , likely current but I did not see 2013 revisions.
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AirRanger wrote:http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/790.25

Read the entire statute, but I believe if you scroll to the last paragraph your specific question is answered.
Note: This statute is for 2012 , likely current but I did not see 2013 revisions.
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A gun can be carried in your car loaded for self defense, but it needs to be in a case (box, glove box, etc.) with some type of securing latch or snap. I have found many officers are confused about the statutes and will give you a hard time anyway. Remember this is for self defense of you in your car, so a rifle is tricky and up to some debate. You are allowed open carry of a firearm if you are on your way to hunt, fish or camp. A rifle is hard to justify as self defense in the confines of your car. If it is in your car ready to fire and you are obviously not on a hunting trip, you're in for some trouble.
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jinotown wrote:A gun can be carried in your car loaded for self defense, but it needs to be in a case (box, glove box, etc.) with some type of securing latch or snap. I have found many officers are confused about the statutes and will give you a hard time anyway. Remember this is for self defense of you in your car, so a rifle is tricky and up to some debate. You are allowed open carry of a firearm if you are on your way to hunt, fish or camp. A rifle is hard to justify as self defense in the confines of your car. If it is in your car ready to fire and you are obviously not on a hunting trip, you're in for some trouble.
So, Basically you're telling me if I want to keep it loaded it needs to be in a gun case with a lock on it?
&Other than that I may carry an unloaded for general protection, correct?
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Bottom Line - To answer YOUR question !!!

You may carry the RIFLE / SHOTGUN in the TRUNK ---- (long gun)
LOADED / UNLOADED / In a CASE/ not in a case/ cardboard box / Wrapped in a blanket / HOWEVER you see fit.....

It is in your trunk and not readily accessible.... Dosen't even fit in the argument...
Handguns in the passenger compartment pose a entirely different threat...

Just be honest and truthful with the LEO if you get stopped.... tell them about the weapon if there is a need to go into the trunk...
WE Generally react BADLY to Surprises....

Pay careful attention to management areas, military property, National Parks, indian reservations /(casinos) etc:::
They have their own set of federal laws and they might Bite You !!!
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When Florida's laws changed on guns possession and use a few years ago there was a reason. Congress passed a Federal law restoring the right to defend ones self against lethal threat anywhere and by any means (rifle, shotgun, pistol etc.) Then the States could legislate State laws based on their interpretation of the Federal law.
Around the time all that took place I attended an Everglades Coordinating Council meeting and we were discussing an FWC rule change due to the new State/Federal law to allow loaded long guns and pistols on WMAs plus almost if not all State land. Some in the room didn't want that to happen due to perceived increase in poaching potential the rule change would have made possible as if a poacher cared about laws.. As far as I know the rule change passed. That was verified to me by an FWC LEO when he complained to me during hunting season that he didn't agree with the long guns being allowed on WMAs year round. I mentioned that the Constitution, Federal or State law didn't specify how or when one defended themselves from lethal threats since they can happen anywhere or anytime..
So what's the point of my post?
Ans. At that meeting one member casually mentioned that with a concealed weapon permit (cwp) we could now carry a loaded gun -no problem. One other person in attendance ( an attorney well known to SA)) took issue with that statement and mentioned a person didn't need a cwp to have a loaded gun or long gun anywhere (State , WMD or Federal lands) according to Florida law nowadays.

Does Ruagatr ring a bell.

There may be some other fine details involved but I follow his interpretation of what we are allowed to do as far as possessing a firearm goes..

If we are lucky Ruagatr will see this thread and post on it.

There is much confusion about Florida's law and I am sure any clarification from a really qualified source would be greatly appreciated.

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Wasn't there a piece of paper somewhere written by a bunch of old fat rich white guys that said something about " shall not be infringed" ?
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mike99705 wrote:Wasn't there a piece of paper somewhere written by a bunch of old fat rich white guys that said something about " shall not be infringed" ?

I'm Saying! :violent1: :evil:
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Results of recent contact with one very good attorney and one gun dealer very close to ATF.

Cased Long guns in a vehicle trunk are OK any which a way whether they're stored in the trunk or bed loaded or not.

Inside the vehicle long guns it seems must pass the 2 step process. Be in a case, have the bolt removed, not within easy reach etc. Apparently for some reason long guns aren't allowed to be as readily accessible as a pistol.

This is the latest I've got on the subject.

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Just to Clarify Glades,
I can load my gun and leave it loaded in my trunk?
All 10 rounds, NO EXCUSES for anything LEGALLY?!
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To correct my previous and clarify.

I was wrong in the previous post.

A long gun may be carried within any vehicle carrying people or property concealed or unconcealed , loaded or not.

Handguns are different

My interpretation is based upon this sentence below excerpted and pasted below from (5) of FS 790.25 and advise from a professional in these matters.

Nothing herein contained prohibits the carrying of a legal firearm other than a handgun anywhere in a private conveyance when such firearm is being carried for a lawful use.

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Gladesman, Thanks for confirming what I posted very early in this thread. The only way to be completly safe is to abide by rules that are provided to us via FL statutes in this case. I know many peolple are very voiced and with variable opinions in matters such as firearms but overall we've got it pretty good here in FL so to maintain that, these questions should only be answered based on facts that can be backed up for our own protection.
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if you have a cwp you can have it loaded right next to you in your car . and you can carry anything concealable

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Your Welcome Air Ranger,

The difficult part of understanding this law is if what you do is NOT specifically prohibited it is legal.

That does take a bit of thought and then you have to have faith in your understanding of English.

Yes, we have it real good especially if one reads the links to other laws within fs 790.25 - they are amazing up to and including the stand your ground statute.

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