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 Post subject: steering cable
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:38 pm 
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Could someone explain to me what type of teleflex cable is used for airboat steering. I am building one and have never seen this setup before. I am familiar with Teleflex rotary cable and rack steering systems for outboards. Is the cable from one of these systems used or does teleflex make something else. If so how is it mounted to the steering stick? I have searched many airboat parts suppliers and non have pictures of the cable. Thanks for any help.


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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:52 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:11 pm 
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I am in eastern Canada and have a marine supplier 5 mi. away that stock teleflex systems and cables. The cables I have seen have a rod on one end that bolts to the outboard and the other end is a flexible cable with what looks like a spring wound around it. This part normally goes into the rotary helm. I don't understand how you could mount this to a stick, you could not push it, it would just bend. Here is a picture of what I am talking about.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/t ... ?a=533691#


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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:20 pm 
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Look at this link to Classic Airboats. It has pictures of all the components for teleflex type steering. The actual cable is at the bottom of the page. Click on the detail button and it will all make sense.

http://classicairboats.com/RUDDERS--STE ... egory.html

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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:21 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:25 pm 
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Classic airboats dont sell a teleflex cable they sell a PTO cable


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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:34 pm 
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If you read what I wrote you'll notice that it says teleflex "TYPE" steering. It is a descriptive reference to help mark123 understand what he may need.

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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:38 pm 
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I read what you posted I was just stating that classic was selling a PTO cable


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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:53 pm 
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There is a place in Melbourne called ECOR and the can make them for you and they are cheaper than the ones for outboard motors. The ones for outboards have 6 inches of total travel I believe. I heard that ECOR can make them with 9 inches of total travel. You will have to check this out to find out for sure.

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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:53 pm 
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thanks alot that website clears things up but those cables are not teleflex that I am used to. So this leads to another question. What are the PTO cables, are they used on heavy trucks to engage the PTO, if so the ones I have seen are usually pretty small in dia. usually 1/4". What would commonly use larger ones? Thanks again


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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:57 pm 
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The Teleflex cables has 8 1/2 of travel. The PTO cables has a end of 5/16 and 3/8 but are 6 inches of travel also they are not as smooth as the teleflex


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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
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Here is anotherlink with more pictures.. Teleflex brand this time.

http://www.ec-securehost.com/FloralCity ... ystem.html

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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:04 am 
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Sorry still a pto not teleflex LOL


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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:14 am 
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From this page you can get info. On the top left are the hot links to their products. This is the REAL TELEFLEX COMPANY.

http://www.teleflexmarine.com/SierraNew ... treme.html
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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:35 am 
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Those look like teleflex throttle cables, they are usually have 10-32 up to 5/16"-24 thread. They seem too small to be used as steering cables. The airboat parts sites list 3/8" threaded ends


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:36 am 
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Please correct me if I am mistaken. Both PTO style and "Teleflex" brand push pull cables both attach and work the same way with the length of travel being the biggest differential of the two. That being said, the Floral City web site link that claims to be selling "Teleflex" brand cable may actually be Teleflex cable in the picture. If this is the case then it is IMO that there is no way to tell the length of travel from that tiny picture alone.

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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:40 am 
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The one that floral city sells is a PTO cable there is no mistaken identity between the 2 also it says 6 inch throw

These are our Standard Sizes, Other sizes can be ordered.
6" Throw


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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
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RR, You are correct on the 6" throw, I did not even take the time to read the description. Do you have or know where to find a picture of an actual "Teleflex" cable either coiled or in use on an airboat? The ad is misleading if this is not actual "Teleflex" product. My only main point from the beginning was to help mark123 with the difference of a rotary and push pull type cable. I believe he may now see the difference. :occasion5:

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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:06 am 
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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:07 am 
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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:09 am 
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the last picture is the teleflex cable where this is a universal cable you have a stock end that goes on the steering stick and the other end that done have a end on it you weld a stainless tube with a rod end bearing to hope this helps


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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:16 am 
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I have teleflex style cables they are made by another company they have over 8" throw but they are not cheap. They use the pto cables because of the attaching nuts. A teleflex style cable needs some modifications to be used and major manufacturers do not want the liability. Be very careful what you buy ... it would scare the hell out of you if you really knew how the ends are put on the homemade teleflex cables. The cables I sell come with the proper ends on them from the factory. You need to weld some type of attaching piece to hold the cable still but the ends are professionally put on. they start at 200 bucks and go up depending on length.

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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:18 am 
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I think our discussion will help answer questions on streering cable choices. :thumbright:

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 Post subject: Re: steering cable
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Good discussion. The type of fixture on the ends of the cable determine the throw NOT THE CABLE ITSELF. Teleflex(R) cable is built a certain way and the cable itself is what is patented and registered NOT the hardware fixed to the ends of the cable. True Teleflex cable is silky smooth compared to PTO cable. However it is typical that one will have more throw than the other and THAT is the ends not the cable. Either CAN have fixtures mounted on it to give any length of throw imaginable. Were talking about pre-made cables and off the shelf lenghts which are stocked generally with "x" amount of throw.

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