SouthernAirboat.com   Pictures & Wallpapers   Classifieds   Forum   Weather & Water Data   Store   Calendar   Airboat Directory   Site Support  
 

By accessing or using this Site, you agree to be bound by the terms and conditions as stated in the SouthernAirboat.com Terms of Service

It is currently Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:28 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 26 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:42 pm 
Offline
Southern Airboat Member

Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 4:39 pm
Posts: 1025
Location: Lake Whitney, Texas
why is it you see more belt drives than gear box reductions?
i plan to buy a boat with a 500 cadillac its direct drive now. but
eventually i'll probably put a reduction of some sort on. i think
i would rather have the gear box. is one better than the other?

_________________
15x7 1974 airgator,500 cadillac dd,74" q series sensenich prop, 1/2" uhmw poly.
18x8 2001 panther, 502 chevy, 2 to 1 century,3 blade 78" stump puller, 1/2" poly


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:50 pm 
Offline
Site Supporter - VIII
Site Supporter - VIII

Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:29 pm
Posts: 3689
Truth be told there are 5 to 1 gearboxes here in florida. Texas has a dealer who has always sold belt drives due to preference so the belts rule texas. I prefer the gear for much less (40 lbs) weight, torque countered by engine going left and prop going right, and more ratio choices. The belts ARE getting more ratios though and in a huge boat the torque roll is not as pronounced. Belts are quieter except for the latest new soft touch drives.

Maddog


Last edited by Ruagatr on Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:53 pm 
Offline
Southern Airboat Member

Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 4:39 pm
Posts: 1025
Location: Lake Whitney, Texas
so that explains it. the one i was looking at is a rotator. 1.7 to 1
thats about the ratio i've heard is good for the caddy's. i've noticed
the gear boxes kind of whine. but i think it sounds cool. haha

_________________
15x7 1974 airgator,500 cadillac dd,74" q series sensenich prop, 1/2" uhmw poly.
18x8 2001 panther, 502 chevy, 2 to 1 century,3 blade 78" stump puller, 1/2" poly


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:54 pm 
Offline
Southern Airboat Member

Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 4:39 pm
Posts: 1025
Location: Lake Whitney, Texas
the gear box i was looking at was 1695 btw. whats a belt drive compare in cost. any idee?

_________________
15x7 1974 airgator,500 cadillac dd,74" q series sensenich prop, 1/2" uhmw poly.
18x8 2001 panther, 502 chevy, 2 to 1 century,3 blade 78" stump puller, 1/2" poly


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:58 pm 
Offline
Site Supporter - VIII
Site Supporter - VIII

Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:29 pm
Posts: 3689
That gearbox price must be used or an older 1 inch wide gear rotator not the 2 inch built now. The belt costs about 1800 if memory serves.

Maddog


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:54 am 
Offline
Site Supporter - IV
Site Supporter - IV

Joined: Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:29 pm
Posts: 1191
Location: Baytown Texas
The reason gear boxes are not popular in Texas is there were several failures, when they were first tried. Today I don't know.

_________________
"The price of Freedom is high! And the sound of Freedom is loud!" (Jet fighter pilot)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:22 am 
Offline
Southern Airboat Member

Joined: Wed May 13, 2009 9:11 pm
Posts: 552
Location: LaBelle,FL.
Rotator has a special going on with the 1.7 ratio. They are like 1700 right now and that is for a soft drive.

_________________
13-6x7-6 Hamant Ultra-lite,Custom TIG Stainless rigging,1.7 Rotator,Supercharged 480,Electronic Ignition,80 inch 3BLD R,B&S trailer


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:40 am 
Offline
Site Supporter - VIII
Site Supporter - VIII

Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:29 pm
Posts: 3689
Thanks TIGO...didnt know. Maybe if they posted on here with regularity we would know... :idea:

Maddog


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:34 am 
Offline
Southern Airboat Member

Joined: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:56 am
Posts: 76
Belt drives have been around longer in "mass" production.

We have both.I run gears on my boats.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:57 pm 
Offline
Site Supporter - VIII
Site Supporter - VIII
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:46 pm
Posts: 5812
Location: deltona, FL
In my opinion there is only 1 gear box... I can only afford to do things once, so I have to buy the best. Product and customer service to boot was well worth the few extra bucks by getting with "dantheairboatman" on this site. I wouldn't even consider a belt on any boat I own. Just my opinion.

_________________
Life is great, without it you'd be dead.
Volusia County Sportsmen's Conservation Association Member
http://lakeokeechobeeairboatassociation.org/
Continental powered Performance hull.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:50 pm 
Offline
Site Supporter - IV
Site Supporter - IV

Joined: Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:29 pm
Posts: 1191
Location: Baytown Texas
If I ever try a gear box again it will come from Dan.

_________________
"The price of Freedom is high! And the sound of Freedom is loud!" (Jet fighter pilot)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:06 pm 
Offline
Site Supporter - V
Site Supporter - V
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:16 pm
Posts: 726
Location: Central Florida
rbjscott wrote:
The reason gear boxes are not popular in Texas is there were several failures, when they were first tried. Today I don't know.


Belt drives had their problems as well when they first hit the scene. Dad was the GM at Panther when the belt drives first came out and he had people and parts sent all over the country repairing them. As with anything, it takes time to perfect something. In my opinion, gear boxes of today are just as reliable and perform a little better as well...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:13 pm 
Offline
Site Supporter - II
Site Supporter - II

Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:50 pm
Posts: 639
Location: Bushnell, Florida
A stinger is my choice, but they are all good in there own way. I can tell you, you'll have a hard time beating Dan at customer service. I won't even look at another box. Feels to much like cheatin' on your wife to me...jmo

_________________
No matter what happens... Just Rise Above It.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:38 pm 
Offline
Southern Airboat Member

Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 4:39 pm
Posts: 1025
Location: Lake Whitney, Texas
when i get the gear box i may just have to
buy from ol Dan. Seems to be several of
folks here that really like Dan

_________________
15x7 1974 airgator,500 cadillac dd,74" q series sensenich prop, 1/2" uhmw poly.
18x8 2001 panther, 502 chevy, 2 to 1 century,3 blade 78" stump puller, 1/2" poly


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:20 pm 
Offline
Site Supporter - V
Site Supporter - V
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:16 pm
Posts: 726
Location: Central Florida
Yep, I don't think you can go wrong dealing with Dan. Other companies should take notice of the way he does things...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:23 pm 
Offline
Site Supporter - VIII
Site Supporter - VIII
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:46 pm
Posts: 5812
Location: deltona, FL
T. Gaffney wrote:
Yep, I don't think you can go wrong dealing with Dan. Other companies should take notice of the way he does things...


AMEN!

_________________
Life is great, without it you'd be dead.
Volusia County Sportsmen's Conservation Association Member
http://lakeokeechobeeairboatassociation.org/
Continental powered Performance hull.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:50 pm 
Offline
Site Supporter - IV
Site Supporter - IV
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:01 pm
Posts: 549
Location: crescent city florida
yobee wrote:
In my opinion there is only 1 gear box... I can only afford to do things once, so I have to buy the best. Product and customer service to boot was well worth the few extra bucks by getting with "dantheairboatman" on this site. I wouldn't even consider a belt on any boat I own. Just my opinion.

Dan Has my vote as well I went from a belt to a stinger drive on my big boat the difference in performance is night and day. Took a bunch of weight out of my boat as well. I have stinger gear boxes on both of my boats love im. My budy has a rotator you can hear it coming before you hear the motor it sounds like a jet turbine. Better to spend the money and get it right the first time . Doing it twice cheap is not the solution. 352-206-5887 Dan the man

_________________
The company of men who seek the truth is much prefered to those who think they have it


Ride boat 14 ft Don Davis Davis sled iron sbc


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:51 pm 
Offline
Site Supporter - VI
Site Supporter - VI

Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:31 pm
Posts: 10136
Location: bradenton florida
RiseAboveIt wrote:
A stinger is my choice, but they are all good in there own way. I can tell you, you'll have a hard time beating Dan at customer service. I won't even look at another box. Feels to much like cheatin' on your wife to me...jmo


Hey its ok if you cheat on Dan .. cause he is just like your wife ... he knows you wll come beggin back wantin to make a deal ROFLMAO

_________________
Don't waste your time ... it is the only thing you can't get more of
.. if it accidentally looks like I gave advice please ignore it .. and notify me immediately


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:54 pm 
Offline
Site Supporter - V
Site Supporter - V
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:16 pm
Posts: 726
Location: Central Florida
anvil wrote:
yobee wrote:
In my opinion there is only 1 gear box... I can only afford to do things once, so I have to buy the best. Product and customer service to boot was well worth the few extra bucks by getting with "dantheairboatman" on this site. I wouldn't even consider a belt on any boat I own. Just my opinion.

Dan Has my vote as well I went from a belt to a stinger drive on my big boat the difference in performance is night and day. Took a bunch of weight out of my boat as well. I have stinger gear boxes on both of my boats love im. My budy has a rotator you can hear it coming before you hear the motor it sounds like a jet turbine. Better to spend the money and get it right the first time . Doing it twice cheap is not the solution. 352-206-5887 Dan the man


And there it is... :lol:

You know, I was taught at a very young age to never, ever down another mans boat. I don't think it's right to make someone feel like there boat isn't as good as mine because they don't have what I do. I have personally owned quite a few rotators and never had a single problem as well as many others on this forum. However, Dan does go the extra mile and deserves the credit he receives and my next box will probably be a stinger.

People that have owned airboats and been around the industry for more than a year or two know why some will never go near a rotator. There was a bad history there and that is exactly what it is now...history. One of the nicest ladies I have ever met in my life owns that company now and I know she will do what's right. We'll just have to see if the rest of the employees will put the company first as well...

Please don't take this the wrong way because i'm not picking on ya Anvil. I just don't think it's fair to call the other one cheap or no good. Just my opinion. Really, i'm not pickin. I heard you were a pretty big fella! :mrgreen:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:00 am 
Offline
Site Supporter - VI
Site Supporter - VI

Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:31 pm
Posts: 10136
Location: bradenton florida
and he builds knives too .. and carries a gun LOL

_________________
Don't waste your time ... it is the only thing you can't get more of
.. if it accidentally looks like I gave advice please ignore it .. and notify me immediately


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:09 am 
Offline
Site Supporter - VIII
Site Supporter - VIII

Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:00 am
Posts: 2379
Location: citra fl
We wish everyone the best from over here as well. :) Thanks to all who speak highly of me. I feel it is more than I deserve. As anvil says if I was having anymore fun it would take two of me to enjoy it :D

_________________
Ox Box. Billet gear reductions and clutch systems
Sensenich propellers dealer.
Airboat consulting.
Dan@352 812 2239


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:10 am 
Offline
Site Supporter - V
Site Supporter - V
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:16 pm
Posts: 726
Location: Central Florida
cntry141iq wrote:
and he builds knives too .. and carries a gun LOL


Yeah, I thought about that. He lives in the same town my moms side of the family has been in for 5 generations too. Not really a whole lot of places to hide in Crescent City! Hope I don't have to keep lookin behind me when I go visit Grandma! :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:12 am 
Offline
Site Supporter - VIII
Site Supporter - VIII

Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:00 am
Posts: 2379
Location: citra fl
Cnrty your wisdom and level of exspereance scares me :mrgreen:

_________________
Ox Box. Billet gear reductions and clutch systems
Sensenich propellers dealer.
Airboat consulting.
Dan@352 812 2239


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:16 am 
Offline
Site Supporter - V
Site Supporter - V
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:16 pm
Posts: 726
Location: Central Florida
dantheairboatman wrote:
We wish everyone the best from over here as well. :) Thanks to all who speak highly of me. I feel it is more than I deserve. As anvil says if I was having anymore fun it would take two of me to enjoy it :D


Well, you're a lucky man. When you are doing something you love to make a living, it shows in all aspects. I hope to have your kind of success one day because I can promise you what i'm doing now feels like work! :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:21 am 
Offline
Site Supporter - IV
Site Supporter - IV
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:01 pm
Posts: 549
Location: crescent city florida
T. Gaffney wrote:
anvil wrote:
yobee wrote:
In my opinion there is only 1 gear box... I can only afford to do things once, so I have to buy the best. Product and customer service to boot was well worth the few extra bucks by getting with "dantheairboatman" on this site. I wouldn't even consider a belt on any boat I own. Just my opinion.

Dan Has my vote as well I went from a belt to a stinger drive on my big boat the difference in performance is night and day. Took a bunch of weight out of my boat as well. I have stinger gear boxes on both of my boats love im. My budy has a rotator you can hear it coming before you hear the motor it sounds like a jet turbine. Better to spend the money and get it right the first time . Doing it twice cheap is not the solution. 352-206-5887 Dan the man


And there it is... :lol:

You know, I was taught at a very young age to never, ever down another mans boat. I don't think it's right to make someone feel like there boat isn't as good as mine because they don't have what I do. I have personally owned quite a few rotators and never had a single problem as well as many others on this forum. However, Dan does go the extra mile and deserves the credit he receives and my next box will probably be a stinger.

People that have owned airboats and been around the industry for more than a year or two know why some will never go near a rotator. There was a bad history there and that is exactly what it is now...history. One of the nicest ladies I have ever met in my life owns that company now and I know she will do what's right. We'll just have to see if the rest of the employees will put the company first as well...

Please don't take this the wrong way because i'm not picking on ya Anvil. I just don't think it's fair to call the other one cheap or no good. Just my opinion. Really, i'm not pickin. I heard you were a pretty big fella! :mrgreen:



your are right I could have worded that differently. I dont mind picking on lyns rotator boat it is the one I borrow when I am working on the evil twins. Lyns boat was the reason I did not buy a gear box right away. Could be his is the only box that makes that much noise. I just feel Dan has a superior product and stands behind it. I meant no disrespect to the rotator crew. I have spent lots of hours being pushed around lake george by a want to be jet engine. Ear plugs are cheap. I stand corrected.

_________________
The company of men who seek the truth is much prefered to those who think they have it


Ride boat 14 ft Don Davis Davis sled iron sbc


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 26 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next






All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Exabot [Bot] and 6 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
 Page and Content Copyright ©2014 • SouthernAirboat.com, Inc. • All Rights Reserved